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Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?

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Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?

Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive? "Paul Smith" wrote in message

"Charlie" wrote in message Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?
Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Yeh you should be able to. However I really cannot remember whether you are meant to install Vista after or before on a dual boot. I can never remember whether the BCDEDIT (new boot loader) ruins your partition setup or compliments it...
I'm pretty sure if you install Vista first then another operating system on another partition afterwards - that'll work :o)
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Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive? "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Charlie" wrote in message Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?
Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Yes you can, thats how I am dual booting right now (actually, multibooting). If you have multiple versions of older versions of Windows installed, they will be stored under the "Legacy (pre-Longhorn) Microsoft Windows operating System" entry.
I notice that if you install Windows XP Professional x64 after Vista, it will put a boot entry on the Windows Boot Manager installed Vista or Longhorn Server. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive? "Paul Smith" wrote in message "Charlie" wrote in message Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?
Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Charlie wrote:

Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive?

No, it doesn't mean that, at all. I'm currently dual-booting WinXPx64 and Vista64, with each installed on different partitions of the same physical hard drive.
For more information on Vista's new boot manager:
Boot Configuration Data Editor Frequently Asked Questions http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/library/85cd5efe-c349-427c-b035-c2719d4af778.mspx

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Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive?

No no, it makes no difference if it's a physical drive or not... but if something goes wrong with Vista boot loader, either a single drive or two separate ones it means getting the XP disc out and fixing the boot loader etc... which is annoying. 8-)
Alternatively if you've got two drives, just switch the drive you'll install Vista on to primary in the BIOS and it won't even touch the Windows XP drive so you're near 100% insulated from disaster if something does go wrong.
A lot of people are however running it in the configuration you're describing and have not had any issues, in fact probably most people are using it like that. I must be stuck in my ways or something. 8-)
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Do I have to install Vista first and then XP? I already have XP installed and was wondering if I could just load Vista to a new partition. "Paul Smith" wrote in message

"Charlie" wrote in message Since the boot loader in Vista is different than XP does this mean that I can't dual boot from different partitions on the same physical drive?
No no, it makes no difference if it's a physical drive or not... but if something goes wrong with Vista boot loader, either a single drive or two separate ones it means getting the XP disc out and fixing the boot loader etc... which is annoying. 8-)
Alternatively if you've got two drives, just switch the drive you'll install Vista on to primary in the BIOS and it won't even touch the Windows XP drive so you're near 100% insulated from disaster if something does go wrong.
A lot of people are however running it in the configuration you're describing and have not had any issues, in fact probably most people are using it like that. I must be stuck in my ways or something. 8-)
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Do I have to install Vista first and then XP? I already have XP installed and was wondering if I could just load Vista to a new partition.

Windows XP will need to be there first. If the partition is there and all set, just go ahead and install.
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BCDEdit allows you customize your boot up options, but its so technical. The Windows Team should have spent every bit of their resources to ensure that there is graphical boot manager in Vista. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
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Yeh you should be able to. However I really cannot remember whether you are meant to install Vista after or before on a dual boot. I can never remember whether the BCDEDIT (new boot loader) ruins your partition setup or compliments it...
I'm pretty sure if you install Vista first then another operating system on another partition afterwards - that'll work :o)
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Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Charlie wrote:

Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?

You won't be easily able to share data files between the two partitions with User Account Protection on.

Put it in the Shared folder on XP or the Public folder in Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
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Charlie wrote: Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?
You won't be easily able to share data files between the two partitions with User Account Protection on.

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:

Put it in the Shared folder on XP or the Public folder in Vista.

.... Or use a third partition for data storage.
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but what if i am dual booting them from the same hard drive but on different partitions?
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"Charlie" wrote in message Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different from other multibooting issues?
Yes you can, it does use a new bootloader so it is pretty different to Windows XP but I've not heard of any major issues.
Of course you can also change the boot order in the BIOS - that way both drives will be independent (with their own normal loader) and even if Vista hosed it's own drive with the boot loader you could just go back to the BIOS and switch back to the XP drive.
-- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.windowsresource.net/
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:

Put it in the Shared folder on XP or the Public folder in Vista.

I shouldn't have to move files from root level folders on either drive for Vista to use them. XP has no problen, only Vista.

That too. :) -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
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Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote: Put it in the Shared folder on XP or the Public folder in Vista.
.... Or use a third partition for data storage.
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here is a page about the new boot loader thing if anyone is interested. it replaces boot.ini
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsvista/library/85cd5efe-c349-427c-b035-c2719d4af778.mspx
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"Charlie" wrote in message Do I have to install Vista first and then XP? I already have XP installed and was wondering if I could just load Vista to a new partition.
Windows XP will need to be there first. If the partition is there and all set, just go ahead and install.
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:16:42 -0700, "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:

BCDEdit allows you customize your boot up options, but its so technical.

I'd call it tedious or clunky.

The Windows Team should have spent every bit of their resources to ensure that there is graphical boot manager in Vista.

I'd just like a nice GUI'd boot manager editor. -- Michael Cecil http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/ http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Charlie wrote: | Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different | from other multibooting issues?
Vista's behaviour is different from XP's and 2000's. For example, if you change the active partitions, it won't change necessarily the C: desingation to the one which is active .. and so on .. so it should be interesting.
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i'm really good with computers, since i am beta testing vista, by the time it comes out, i'll know almost everything about it. i'll probably make fixes for it as well. and send them into microsoft. i'll just make the developement of it go a tad bit faster. of course then, the more beta testers that there is for vista that acually submit the issues they have, the better vista will be when it comes out.
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Charlie wrote: | Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different | from other multibooting issues?
Vista's behaviour is different from XP's and 2000's. For example, if you change the active partitions, it won't change necessarily the C: desingation to the one which is active .. and so on .. so it should be interesting.
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Key Pounder VPE Cert. 2004-2009

Yeh, there's been word of making a GUI one for a while - it'll deffo. be appearing to some degree in the April CTP - that's all I know :o(
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:16:42 -0700, "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
BCDEdit allows you customize your boot up options, but its so technical.
I'd call it tedious or clunky.
The Windows Team should have spent every bit of their resources to ensure that there is graphical boot manager in Vista.
I'd just like a nice GUI'd boot manager editor. -- Michael Cecil http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/ http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/

Each new build is getting better and better :o)
.... as long as you ignore 5308 of course ;o) That's the only exception.
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i'm really good with computers, since i am beta testing vista, by the time it comes out, i'll know almost everything about it. i'll probably make fixes for it as well. and send them into microsoft. i'll just make the developement of it go a tad bit faster. of course then, the more beta testers that there is for vista that acually submit the issues they have, the better vista will be when it comes out.
"Key Pounder" wrote in message Charlie wrote: | Can I multiboot Vista with XP Pro ? If so, is there anything different | from other multibooting issues?
Vista's behaviour is different from XP's and 2000's. For example, if you change the active partitions, it won't change necessarily the C: desingation to the one which is active .. and so on .. so it should be interesting.
--
Key Pounder VPE Cert. 2004-2009

Surprises coming soon from my friend. ;) -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Michael Cecil" wrote in message

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 09:16:42 -0700, "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" andred25@hotmail.com> wrote:
BCDEdit allows you customize your boot up options, but its so technical.
I'd call it tedious or clunky.
The Windows Team should have spent every bit of their resources to ensure that there is graphical boot manager in Vista.
I'd just like a nice GUI'd boot manager editor. -- Michael Cecil http://home.comcast.net/~macecil/ http://home.comcast.net/~safehex/